Brake Parts Needed

[fng]

I know I'm probably just being lazy again, but I need to do some shopping and don't want to spend a week chasing down and rooting around for the best deals. If I may, I'd like to borrow again from the vast knowledge base of you fellow zoners. Thanks in advance.

I need the cheapest and most readily available source for the following:

8 New Brake shoes
4 new wheel brake cylinders
one set of 3 braided brake line hoses
one set of 4 Michelin xl's or xzl's (80% or better)

I know it's alot of trouble but I'm ready to "drop some coin" this week. I sold one of my zero turn mowers and have a sudden influx of cash that's not spoken for. And I need to get all this stuff rounded up and installed before it gets cold here in the next few weeks.
If you could, could you throw out some part numbers and prices you last paid for this stuff too?
Thanks y'all, any help will save me countless hours of phone calls and searching around.

[LuckyPabst]

Braided lines:

I just bought one of these 12" with 90 degree end hoses and was very pleased for the $14 price. Whenever I can in the future, this is the route I will take. You also need adapters to fit to the wheel cylinders and hard line but they run a few bucks a piece.

I used the AN-3 size (3/16") but if I remember correctly, our trucks use 1/4" line which would work with AN-4 stuff.

Speedway motors brake page

In comparison I had a local hose shop make up the 3 braided lines for my truck and paid $100 - I could have done most of it myself but two ends required silver soldering and I wasn't comfortable doing that. On that note, the front wheel cylinders may give you clearance troubles and that's why I had the little short hardline nipples from the OEM brake hoses silver soldered into an AN fitting that the braided hose could attach to. Check your clearance there before laying out too much cash.

Chris

[Binford]

Since your list consisted mostly of brake stuff, I'll copy all the brake stuff I've collected from this site (and its other variants) over the years:

Brake Parts:
Brake Adjusters
Napa#80556 left,and80557 right
from cutworm68 #3429 8/22/99
The brake part kits for front and rear are the same. The adjusters are of the starwheel variety, and if you need them I know Memphis Equipment had them.
from brute4c #2443 6/25/99

Brake Bleeder Screws
new bleeder screws Wagner #F11579, these have BIG wrench flats and stick out farther so you can reach them.
from Mozarkid #1559 4/8/99

Brake Booster
All of the following are Cardone:
Power Booster, Single A1 50-1124
Price ?
Power Booster, Dual A1 50-1014
Price $155.00+$30.00 Core
from brute4c 11/25/98

Brake Booster Frame Mounted
the frame mounted brake booser is: 51-8013 it costs about $135 and works great, lots of stopping power to stop the deuce axles.
from roger 26 Jan 02

Brake Booster Mounting Bracket
The adapter is about 3" thick and tapered such that it angles the booster and master cyl. upward slightly. I had to buy this part from a Jeep dealer. I think the part #
is J5359059, cost is about $25.
from DrewM715 #402 11/26/98

Brake Wheel Cylinder
The part number is RAYWC37626 I did drill a little to fit but I am happy so far if you try these let me know if it works for you??
from JEEPKAISER 11/10/98
Wheel cyl required very slight enlarging of bolt holes in the backing plates and where a car quest Bravo # 1052 and 1051 one right and one left. Also use a 3/16
fitting not 1/4 like the truck lines, needs a little adapter, no biggie. (this info I got from the FAQ here but can say that it works great!)
from Doug Foster 6 apr 01
you can buy some that fit 93-94 Ford 1 tons. Tru torque W37262 and W37263, left and right.
The following are part numbers for one side, not sure which off hand
Bendix 33595
Raybestos WC37263
EIS EW73615
Wagner F73615
from brute4c #3661 8/30/99
Wheel cylinder,napa#9025 left,and9026 right.
from cutworm68 #3429 8/22/99
I called Midway Supply today. NOS wheel cylinders: $37.50 ea. NOS tie rod/drag link ends: $37.50 ea. Proper pitman arm for Saginaw power steering box:
$37.50 ea. NOS master cylinder rebuild kit: about $15.00 ea.
from MudAnchor #1135 2/25/99
the box says: "CarQuest Corporation, Lakewood CO..." I can probably get it cross referenced to a national brand P/N if needed. The #'s 13792 and 13791 are
cast into these cylinders, depending on the side (left or right wheel cylinder). The bore size (1 1/16) is also cast into the cylinders.
from MudAnchor #939 2/3/99
I used the rear wheel cylinders from a '93 E-250 Ford van on my m715. The only thing I needed to do was open the mounting holes a bit. The brake line bolted
right up. They're even the correct bore size.
from Darryl 8 apr 01
wheel cyls were #s swc1051 & 1052 left and right thats car quest
from john campbell 21 jul 01
Left Napa #4637219
Right Napa #4637218
requires an adapter to mate to threads on hoses.
from Mark 11/24/01

Brake Wheel Cylinder Rebuild Kit
raybestos #wc-34474. if your pistons are good, most partstores keep cyl.cups in bulk. that is how i did mine. just ask for 1 1/16 cups. by the by, i think all four cyls
are the same.
from bowtiedave 21 April 02
One others post I seen listed that they got their kits at autozone and the brand was Brakeware UPC 82702 90661, P/N 66821. The Wagner rebuild kit is #F3609,
this kit does NOT include the pistons. I priced the Wagner stainless steel pistons and they were about $45.00 EACH
from Alan Bennett 13 may 00
I am going to be rebuilding my wheel brake cylinders, but alot depends on the condition of yours. I just picked up the parts to do it. The Wagner part number
F-3609
from texas715 15 jun 01
For you folks that had trouble with the boots slipping off your wheel cylinders:
Wagner rebuild kit #F3609 contains a much better boot, Wagner #FC-14492. The original boot, Wagner #FC-2937, is a stiffer design and obviously, can get
pushed off . The kit also contains updated piston seals and springs.
from Mozarkid #664 12/23/98

Brake Drums
ABLinn lists NOS rear brake drums (no fronts NOS) at 75 each. He prob has plenty of used drums that may have less miles/wear on them than yours
from KAISER715 #867 1/27/99
Try Clark Truck Parts. I used them about four years ago, they had good prices on wheels and drums.
(304) 343-3961
1915 West Washington Street
P.O. Box 10146
Charleston, West Virginia 25312
from mozarkid 11/18/98

Brake Hoses
Memphis equipment
http://www.memphisequipment.com
766 South Third St.
Memphis, Tn 38106
901-774-0600
fax 901-946-1919
I bought NOS hoses from AB Linn, very reasonable.
brute4c

Brake Light Switch
I used an old plunger stoplight switch and mounted it on a bracket then used a 2in. exhaust clamp to mount the whole mess to the steering column.
from Cutworm 68 #6839 3/26/00
I also checked on brake light switches that mount near the pedal instead of the pressure switch we currently use, stock. The civilian trucks used a pressure switch
until 74 or 75 when the newer type took over. The simplest one appears to be, Wells part number, DR496. This is essentially a straight tube about 3 to 4 inches
long, with a button on one end and a long threaded section on the other
from brute4c #469 12/2/98

Brake Lining
Grab your yellow pages and find out who is doing brake service for the medium to heavy duty truck market in your city. You should be able to get your relines done
with no problem.
from oreuc #9000 1/31/01
I haven't had much luck with the NOS Military lining. The mud and silt seem to just chew it right up. I have been getting shoes relined with a semi metalic aftermarket
lining. This seems to hold up better and they work better when wet. This costs me $45 for 4 shoes plus shipping.
from B Yorwarth #8994 1/29/01
You can order brake linings from Front Line. These are the original linings, they come with everyhting you need, linings and rivets. I have used these and seem to
work fine. Had a local brake shop rivet them together for me. Cost was 10$ for a complete set.
from Louie715 #6563 2/25/00
Memphis has shoes for $20.00 each (yes, EACH, that's $80.00/axle). Or, if you have access to a good shop, they sell linings for $10.00/shoe. My shop quoted me
$10.00/shoe to rivet new linings on, so I took the "no downtime" route and got the shoes. Be ready for core charge, though!
from bump r #6126 1/26/00
I had mine relined at Napa.It cost me $89.00for one end, thats four shoes.hope this helps. ==Cut
from Cutworm 68 #3216 8/11/99
Getting new lignings put on my shoes at a break and clutch shop. Cost is $27.50 per axel. I thought this was a reasonable price to pay. If anyone needs this service,
drop me an email at MrBass1@aol.com and I`ll send you their Ph# and Address.
from A M715 4Me #879 1/29/99
AB Linn (ablinn@cbiinternet.com) has the brake shoes for $15.00 each.
Memphis Equipment has the shoes for 20 bucks each (plus $5.00 each core), and the return springs for, I think, $3.00 each. Memphis also has the linings for around
$10.00 each, but it would have been an additional $10.00to have 'em riveted on locally, It was just as well for me to get the complete shoes.
from bump r #2734 7/11/99
I got new linings from Leo Porter at Midway Supply in TX for $20 PER AXLE and relined my own. All you need to do is drill the crimp off the old rivets and rivet
the new ones on. Rivets are supplied with the linings, and a brake rivet crimping tool is available from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty in Fullerton, Ca (or Atlanta area
branch) for about $22.00.
from MudAnchor #4849 11/11/99

Brake Shoe Aligning Pins
this is the # for the little rods that hold the shoes on RAYBESTOS#h1108-2 it's a 4 pack more than enough for 3;00 dollars.
from rere725 #9920 9/21/01
brake nails, napa#80463
from cutworm 68 #3429 8/22/99

Brake Parts
Leo Porter at Midway Supply Co in Irving, TX (972) 399-1532, has many brake parts. Wheel cylinders $35, Master cylinders $75, NOS Wheel hoses $22.50,
Milspec silicone brake fluid $20/Gallon and brake shoe linings w/copper rivets. He is a real nice guy and very knowledgable on M715s.
from nourmahal101 #6169 1/29/00
Memphis equipment
http://www.memphisequipment.com
766 South Third St.
Memphis, Tn 38106
901-774-0600
fax 901-946-1919

Brake Return Springs
the federal stock #2530-9170871.The manufacturer's part #65909-943654. That is out of the Memphis equipment parts book.
from Will Wright 29 April 02
Memphis Equipment has the return springs for, I think, $3.00 each.
from bump r #2734 7/11/99

Brake Rivet Crimping Tool
I got new linings from Leo Porter at Midway Supply in TX for $20 PER AXLE and relined my own. All you need to do is drill the crimp off the old rivets and rivet
the new ones on. Rivets are supplied with the linings, and a brake rivet crimping tool is available from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty in Fullerton, Ca (or Atlanta area
branch) for about $22.00.
from MudAnchor #4849 11/11/99

Brake Shoes
surplus city #127779
http://www.surplusjeep.com
i used the shoes for a j4000(13x21/2) big a part#2-60r they are the same except in two areas. #1 you will have to lose the trapezoid block and #2 you will have to
get new return springs or bend one end of your old ones 90 degrees. when you get them on you will see what i'm talking about.
from bowtiedave 31 Jan 02
We can reline your old brake shoe cores with original type linings $15. per shoe.... send cores please!
Steve Davis Parts
1010 West Main St. Oklahoma City, OK. 73106 or e-mail klassikars@aol.com
from klassikars #9063 2/8/01
i matched mine up at the local parts store. i think the counter man said they were the same as mid eighties chevy daully rear shoes. they were cheap and i got a
lifetime warranty.
from krob1 99 #8887 1/8/01
AB Linn (ablinn@cbiinternet.com) has the brake shoes for $15.00 each.
Memphis Equipment has the shoes for 20 bucks each (plus $5.00 each core), and the return springs for, I think, $3.00 each. Memphis also has the linings for
areound $10.00 each, but it would have been an additional $10.00to have 'em riveted on locally, It was just as well for me to get the complete shoes.
from bump r #2734 7/11/99
I got my shoes from Front Line Military Vehicles, 560 Bull Run Road, Wrightsville PA 17368 Phone717)252-4489. Cost was $90 for the four wheels and $17
shipping. Their stock number is 00-933-3585.
from Alan Bennett 13 may 00
These shoes at Advance Auto Parts were about $58.00 for ALL 4 wheels, compared to $200 that a local shop wanted to re-line the old ones!! Plus they are easy
to find if they need to be done again due to dirt getting in there etc. the part # was FR320 (all around)
Note: these need to be slightly modified to fit. see post from date below for more info.
from Doug Foster 6 apr 01
The chevy 76 3/4 ton shoes dont work on the front. the jeep gladiator factory hd dually 8000 gvw REAR shoes do.. sorry to confuse an already confused issue
heres the part # car quest FRI BS 273R
from john campbell 25 aug 01

Emergency Brake/Handbrake/Parking Brake Band Assembly
you want the emergency brake band assy. Try AB Linn Inc at 704/637-9076 or ablinn@cbiinternet.com. He had good NOS units at $22.50 - great source for all
else too.
from cinco us #8133 9/13/00

Emergency Brake Drum
AB Linn lists NOS e-brake drums for about $15. I'm not sure if he has more left, but it's worth a try. Call 704-637-9076.
from MudAnchor #1574 4/9/99

Master Cylinder
found a master cylinder that bolts in place and has a little more capaticy than the cj-5. keep in mind if your still using an all drum set up the wheel cylinders don't need
near as much fluid movement when compared to discs. the master cylinder i found is a 10-1511, that is an A1 cardone #. that's just i'm running, not saying it's better
just another option.
from roger 4 aug 01
The master cylinder: 10-4000 (napa- remanufactured by Cardone) about $30.00 as I had no core... It's from a j-series dually, with a slightly larger resevoir. It bolts
directly on, and you can either replace the line leading to the j-block, or bend it slightly to meet the different port on the new MC.
from Mark 11/24/01
According to our brake system cross reference the Napa Wagner # 36833 thats for the master cylinder itself . The parts store should beable to get the rebuild kit
from there.
from Cutworm 68 #5785 1/5/00
Master Cylinder: Wagner #F66857, used on GM P30/P35 series trucks prior to 1972. Use the secondary to drive the front brakes, it's the piston nearest firewall.
All you need is reducers to adapt the larger outlets on the unit to your brake line size, about a buck each.
from Mozarkid #435 11/30/98
All of the following are Cardone
These are the parts for a 74 J Series truck with a GVWR of 8600 Lbs. giving it near perfect sizing, I should think, for the M715.
Dual Sided Manual Brake Master Cylinder A1 10-1489 Price $19.99
Dual Sided Power Brake Master Cylinder A1 10-1521 Price $16.99
from brute4c 11/25/98
I used a master cyl. off a 80' cj-5 and it works fine . I also used the proportioning valve off the same and had trouble with it . i don't know if the valve was messed
up or what but i could not get even pressure to the wheel cyls. so i used a splitter off a 70' ford truck and it works fine now.
from lee 12 apr 01
Napa has the stock masters in their catalogs with a picture. It fits the 66 J series trucks. I dont have the part number, sorry.
from brute4c 2 jul 01
two hole master cyl. Wagner part #F66857
from paul brown 13 sept. 01

Master Cylinder, Corvette
101749 at Advanced Auto Parts. It's for a '77 Corvette, NON power. On my truck, I bolted it directly up to a Gladiator (delco) booster and works great. The non
power master has a larger piston than the power master...that was enough for me.
from spicergear 18 mar 02

Master Cylinder, Dual
Wagner #F66857
Raybestos #36246
CarQuest #20-1331
A1 Cardone #A-1-10-1331
from MudAnchor #1759 5/3/99
Master cyl: Wagner#F66857....same unit by other makes,Raybestos#36246,A1 Cardone#A-1-10-1331.Uses stock pedel and push rod.The primary circuit is the
rear brakes and the one nearest the firewall is the front line.
from Wout 12 apr 01

Master Cylinder Rebuild Kit
I used a United repair kit from NAPA
part #234
from brns1 #5791 1/6/00
By the way--I called Midway Supply today. NOS wheel cylinders: $37.50 ea. NOS tie rod/drag link ends: $37.50 ea. Proper pitman arm for Saginaw power
steering box: $37.50 ea. NOS master cylinder rebuild kit: about $15.00 ea.
from MudAnchor #1135 2/25/99

Parking Brake in Rear Drums
As far as putting the parking brake in the rear drum AND getting auto adjusters AND getting semi-mettalic shoes to boot, there is a swap that has been done on the
rear that accomplishes all three. Basically you need the backing plates and brake stuff, except the drum, off a corporate 14 bolt GM axle with 13 inch drums. Redrill
the bolt pattern and cut out the center hole a little in the backing plate and they go on the rear and use the stock M715 drum.

Parking Brake Disc
Try Jesse who owns High Angle Driveline. He makes a emergency brake kit to mount a small disc & cable operated caliper for 205's. It mounts to the rear output
behind the yoke. About 300 clams which for you is pure pocket change.
www.highangledriveline.com
from hewl35 8 feb 02
you could use a emergency brake caliper off of a Subaru, hook it to the original handle and and have a mechanical brake.
All Pro Offroad makes a setup like this for Toyotas. You might check their web site at www.allprooffroad.com to seeif they have any pictures that might help you to
design your own system.
from GSanders 30 Jan

Power Brakes
After spending over 12 hours in Willy's M715 going to get the CUCV, I have to tell you I have never been so impressed with a truck. The stock drum brakes with
semi-metallic brake linings, a J-20 booster and a Hummer master cylinder worked great in the hills in West Texas and at highway speeds towing the CUCV. He
could basically throw me through the windshield if he wanted to.
from Pascalray #6832 3/25/00

Rear Disc Brake Conversion
I used 3/4 ton caliper brackets from the front of a 75 chevy 4 wheel drive 1/2 ton calipers from the same year, i used 1 ton front rotors from a chevy 4wheel drive, i
made an adapter to mount the rotor to my stock hub it was basically a 3/8 in inch steel with both bolt patterns I used 9/16 trailer studs for the six lugs and
countersunk the heads and used 11/16 countersunk bolts on the 8 lugs side. I had to machine seventy thousandths off the thickness of each side of the rotor for the
halfton caliphers and brakets to fit and one hundred and forty thousandths of the circumference of the rotor if i had to do it over i would have bought the three
quarter ton rotors at the local part store because they are already the right thickness and circumference but i already had the one tons they were free... as for
mounting the bracket the inside diameter is three inches one hundred thousandths and the axel tube at the mounting point is three inches you could make and adapter
to mount to the stock four bolt flange but i positioned my brackets to the right location and tig welded them.
from wilson thorne 14 April 02

Self Adjusters for Rear Brakes
As far as putting the parking brake in the rear drum AND getting auto adjusters AND getting semi-mettalic shoes to boot, there is a swap that has been done on the
rear that accomplishes all three. Basically you need the backing plates and brake stuff, except the drum, off a corporate 14 bolt GM axle with 13 inch drums. Redrill
the bolt pattern and cut out the center hole a little and they go on the rear and use the stock M715 drum.
Yahoo board, post#8962 1/25/01
Posted 4/16/07 by rpgdeity:
Just some added info, I got done replacing all 4 of my wheel cylinders a few weeks ago. Obviously you will need 2 of the one type and 2 of the other type, but for anyone who needs to know specifically, here is the left and ride side numbers.

Drivers Side: 37263
Passengers Side: 37262

I picked these up at Napa about a month ago, they were $17.87 a peice.

[redneck1]

You can use the brake cylinders off of a 93 ford F-350 just take a dremil tool to the backing plate.Enlarge the bolt holes.Very little trimming.

I think that is the right year.
That's what I am running on mine.
Redneck1

[Binford]

Here's a link to a thread from the PseudoZone where WetCJ discusses building a jig to use a modern brake shoe for our trucks:

http://m715zone.proboards102.com/ind...9272699&page=1

[503m715]

I have an extra set of 4 brake shoes and a couple of wheel cyl rebuild kits that I bought from AB Linn. I paid 85$ plus shipping for the brake shoes and $9 for the wheel cyl kits. If you cant find anything close or reasonable I would sell my extra set to you.

[fng]

Hey Tim, thanks for all the info...I printed it all off and it took 9 pages! Now thats a body of knowledge!

[FSJGuy]

You can use the brake cylinders off of a 93 ford F-350 just take a dremil tool to the backing plate.Enlarge the bolt holes.Very little trimming.

I think that is the right year.
That's what I am running on mine.
Redneck1

That's correct.

RE shoes, get em re-lined locally. I heard of a place that sent their guy to talk to Ford model T owners about shoes. I figured he knew a thing or two about old iron <g> and I had all four corners redone for about $120, including shipping back to me. This was about 3-4 years ago.

[kwai]

Are you sure you need new brake shoes? Try Frontline MV's. He had them about 6 months ago. You can get brake cylinders from AB Linn (unless he's still ed at you). Or use the F350 stuff if you are not worried about keeping it stock. AB also has the brake lines. As well as Memphis, VPW, etc.

[pistolnut]

There is a post in there about relining your own shoes using linings from Midway and a tool from Aircraft Spruce. I went this route and don't recommend it unless the absolute bottom dollar is the way you have to go and you have plenty of time. If you are considering this route, PM me for more info. It can work, but there are some pitfalls.

If you live in a town large enough to have a brake house, having your shoes relined is the best way to go. I had this done on one of my other trucks and it came out great. In fact, they even made me some oversize shoes for one of the drums that was a little oversize.