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    Default Alternator Hot Wire

    I have never had to mess with a stock alternator. The DSPO removed mine before I got the truck. But, I am going to try and use Pistolnut's 24V alternator on my M35 to replace the external regulator generator on it. The only problem is that Pistolnut said it overcharged.

    So, I decided to test it on my alternator testor in my class. This is a machine that has a motor, belt and pulley along with a sliding mount for alternators. It has a bunch of wires and switches making it able to hook up to all kinds of alternators. It even has a gauge for amps and volts. The gauge only goes up to 18 volts and the console can only supply 12v.

    Then I decided to hot wire it on the machine. Using the machine to turn the alternator and using a 24v battery charger for a source and a multimeter to read the output.

    I put it on the machine, connected the alt ground cable to the negative on the battery charger. The positive on the charger to the small wire on the alternator. I turned the machine on and it started turning. No volts were showing at the big bolt where the big alt supply wire goes. Then, click! and the motor lugs and the speed reduces a lot. But, 2 volts were showing and the my machine couldn't turn it any faster.

    I reversed the positve connections and got nothing until I touched the small wire to the big wire bolt. Same result with the load on my machine. It couldn't turn it.

    My question is this:

    The small wire with the Packard connector is the alt exciter that turns it on while the big wire that bolts on is the positive back to the batteries, right?

    I am going to take it home and install it on the Gasser. I don't want to burn up my good Optima red top by getting my wires backwards. I will check the output if my Gasser can turn it. Hopefully, the litte hex bolt will adjust the output to what is required.

    What is the required charging output?

    Thanks.
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    I'm pretty sure its 28.8v, I might have seen 30 mentioned.

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    They will put out between 24-30V. 28 being optimal. I don't understand your machine not being able to turn the alt that kinda puzzles me. ??

    BTW I have a GI kit replace the generator and voltage regulator with an Altinator let me know if your interested. It was designed for M35s.
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    Let me see if it bolts up before I start thinking about a kit. Since I am going to rewire the entire truck, I just need to make it line up with the pulleys.
    Remember if you didn't build it you can't call it yours.

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    It should bolt right in since they are the same size...the question is does it put out!
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    Joe, I don't normally joke that much, but if this were the BS board I would be all over your last post.

    I just don't know if it works or not. I will be prepping and painting the last little bit on the 715 tonight and tomorrow and I have to go to Houston for my grnadmothers 90th b-day Sunday. So, it may be next week before I find out. I am months away from needing it anyway. I just need something on there that holds the water pump belts tight while I move it around the yard doing restorative work and that won't change until it is all painted and has 10 good tires under it.

    But, am I right about the wires? Ground is ground. The big wire is to the battery and the little wire is power through the on/off switch, right?
    Remember if you didn't build it you can't call it yours.

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    You should never hook up an alternator to a battery charger alone. The sensed voltage is higher than the output and you're trying to force amps back into the charger. It is best to only use batteries to test alts, preferrably good and charged batteries at that.

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